Pete Zahut

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  Born Ins, How Did Your Parents Get "The Truth™"?

  by pale.emperor in

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  born ins are in a unique position in that we never knew any other way of life.

  no birthdays, christmas and overly superstitious family just seemed normal.

  when my parents talked about their pre-jw life it seemed like they were talking about completely different people (actually, that's true, the cult had taken their real selves).. so i'd be interested in hearing how your parents were indoctrinated.. my dad.

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  My parents, in their mid 20's came to the U.S. from Europe for better opportunities for themselves and us kids. They left all of their family and friends behind.

  Some nice JW' ladies came to call on my lonely mother. They offered her friendship, family and everlasting life. The door to all of the opportunities in terms of higher education, jobs, holidays, sports, life experiences for themselves and us kids, was slammed shut from that point on.

  My Father never got baptized but studied for years and died from not taking a blood transfusion during a surgery. Everything he knew about the topic of blood transfusion, was learned from JW's during his Bible study with them. A short time after he died (horribly) the JW's decided that blood fractions were acceptable. In his case, the use of blood fractions would have surely saved him. The decision to allow the use of blood fractions because they weren't considered blood, would have tipped him off that these ordinary men, don't know what they are talking about and that maybe he should take medical direction from highly trained medical professionals instead.
  
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  The WatchTower conductor lied on stage

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.

  when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?

  i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.

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  I wouldn't say it was a lie...the question just wasn't answered very thoroughly.

  In this instance, I understand the word "everything" to indicate that you'd do whatever it took to remain as a subject of God's Kingdom and the word everything indicates the importance of the matter. For some, it may only take modest adjustments in their lives but for others it may take drastic changes for them to remain subjects of God's kingdom (ie: selling belongings, changing jobs etc). The idea being conveyed is that one would be ready to make any sacrifice necessary, to remain in God's Kingdom.
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  The "Jesus is Michael" teaching soon to go?

  by Island Man in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  could the teaching that jesus is michael the archangel, be soon to be discarded?

  first of all, watchtower is big on image and this is one of those teachings that paint the jw religion as being rather kooky and heretical.

  secondly, this teaching is not an original watchtower teaching but one they inherited from their second adventist ancestry.

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  The teaching "Jesus is Michael" soon to go?

  What brought that question to your mind all of a sudden?
  
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  keeping from being recognized

  by road to nowhere in

  1. forum
  2. suggestions

  anyone try to disquise their intellect,???

  a lot of us have certain pet phrases, sayings, and opinions.

  if you know me you could pick them out.

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  anyone try to disquise their intellect,??? a lot of us have certain pet phrases, sayings, and opinions. If you know me you could pick them out.

  If I'm understanding your comment correctly I'd say you need to relax....I'm guessing you're not as unique or as recognizable as you may think you are.
  
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  Glen Campbell

  by glenster in

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  rip april 22, 1936 – aug.8, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucysj4ibwi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkzk9pxmio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxojkdqdnbi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/glen_campbell.

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  Pete Zahut

  JW's love the way it makes them fell more legitimate, when they hear of someone famous "coming into the truth".

  When I got baptized at the International Assembly in Vancouver Canada in 1974 when I was 17, there was a rumor flying around that Glen was there and was going to be baptized. People had their songbooks in hand and were looking for him to autograph them. They had to give a special talk about the evils of "idolatry".
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  Post Convention Euphoria

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there is a plethora of convention photos on my instagram this morning.

  (a lot of my jw friends have forgotten i'm on their followers list) .

  smiling faces standing next to convention posters with comments like 'nope, i'm not giving up.

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  Most of the tweets and posts made by JW's on social media (especially after an assembly) can be classified as "Virtue Signaling"

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling
  

  They all make the same superficial and Cliche' public expressions, in order to appear virtuous in the eyes of their peers.

  #BestAssemblyEver...# BestLIfeEver.... translate to "Look at how theocratic I am everyone !".

  They probably don't even remember what was said at the assembly nor do they think it was any better than the last one. They are more interested in how they appear to the others in the group and how virtuous they get to feel when they make these proclamations.
  
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  Really struggling to go on

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, so much has happened in my life over the years and continues to happen, but i won't go into the details as it would take a long time.. i don't really know why, but i returned to "the truth" 15 years ago.

  in 2012 when the tv broadcasting station launched, i started to develop doubts.

  the australian royal commission and other scandals made me angrier, and i now don't believe most of the core teachings.. the only reason i show up at 5 or 6 meetings each month is to keep in contact with my parents and a few other family members.. but it's killing me, literally.

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  I found out that living with your foot in both worlds, can literally tear you up. For me, going to the meetings was like going to a funeral 3 times a week. Constantly hearing about the imaginary "end of the system" and the "wicked world", was having a detrimental effect on me and making it difficult to navigate myself through the real world.

  A week after I quit going altogether, the unexplained panic and anxiety attacks I had been having for the past few years, suddenly stopped. The only reason I completely stopped going to meeting was because my body finally said ENOUGH ! and forced me to stop.

  If I'd have realized what was causing the suffering, I would have stopped years sooner. When I did finally stop going, guess what? They went on without me...no one cared. After 25 years of attending that Hall and raising our kids there and having our whole social life revolve around JW's, it took 3 years before anyone came looking for me and that was because it was the Circuit Overseers visit and he made them do it.

  I hope you listen to your inner voice and take steps toward getting yourself away from their negative and destructive message, before you do something rash. If you're like me, you'll be shocked at how quickly you'll be well again.
  
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  Paranoid why the coordinator's wife is soft shunning me

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for the past six months the coordinator's wife has definitely been avoiding me, turning her back or walking away when i walk in her direction, giving me a stare at other times.

  if i try to make casual conversation with her, she literally walks away or just looks through me until someone else comes to talk to her.. i can only think of one reason, which is that she may have seen me give a car ride to a disfellowshipped person months ago.

  i mean, it would be totally random if she happened to spot me on this one short journey, but it's possible.

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  "PARANOID why the coordinators wife is soft shunning me"
  

  It's natural for us to want to be liked by people but in this case I suppose I'd ask myself why it was so important to me that I have the approval of this one person. I've done noting wrong to her and I've gone out of my way to be a friend, am I being a bit Narcissistic in thinking that her behavior is about me ? Am I being overly concerned about what she thinks of me? Do I miss having this person in my life or is my concern mostly out of an exaggerated need for the approval of others?

  I would focus my thoughts on the majority of others who seem to like me rather than obsess on the one who doesn't seem to at the moment.
  
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  After 103 years of JC Kingly Rule things dont look too good for Jehovahs Witnesses witnessing for Jehovah.

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  these are 2015 figures.

  overall christians 2.3 billion.

  roman catholics 1.2 billion.

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  It works both ways for them. If there is an increase, they say that Jehovah is speeding up the work and a great in-gathering is taking place.

  If there is a decrease, they say that it was prophesied that the love of the greater number will cool off in time of the end and the road to life is narrow and cramped.
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  Where else can I go???

  by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  those are the words of my 2nd generation born in jw mother.

  my grandfather died refusing blood.

  i've since come to the realization that many jws have no other opportunities or options when it comes to leaving the cult.

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  John 6:68 Lord to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.

  JW's typically misquote this scripture and say WHERE shall we go, rather than to WHOM shall we go.

  They replace God and Jesus with the Governing Body and the JW Organization and equate leaving it, with leaving God himself.